Chuck Todd and Kellyanne Conway

Chuck Todd is probably scared to death of Kellyanne Conway after this exchange. Appearing on Meet The Press yesterday Conway got into a heated discussion over a few points. Chuck Todd was hellbent on pushing the questionable narrative that Barack Obama had more people at his inauguration than Donald Trump. Conway defended their position and tried to move onto more substantive issues but Todd couldn’t let it go.

It got so bad that Todd even snickered at Conway. But she wasn’t having any of it and put him in his place:

During the fractious interchange, Conway at one point also rebuked Todd’s laughing at one point, calling it “symbolic” of “the way we’re treated by the press.”

“The way you laughed at me is representative of the way we’re represented by the press,” she said. “We were mocked talking about the historic crowds for our campaigns. He brought in historic crowds and on great days we were ignored, and on most days we were mocked. Those crowds mattered, he built a movement.”

It was glorious.

Watch the whole exchange:

Here is the transcript:

“TODD: I want to go back to a question that you continue to deflect. Why was it necessary to send out the press secretary on his first day in office to utter a provable falsehood that now calls into question everything the press secretary will say from here on out?

KELLYANNE CONWAY: No it doesn’t.

TODD: It will for many Americans.

CONWAY: No it doesn’t. You want them to hear that. You want them to hear that I’m not answering your questions which I’m doing. You want them to hear that they can’t trust our press secretary. I think that is—

TODD: What was the motive then?

CONWAY: — a very dangerous statement to make.

TODD: What was the motive for the ridiculous litigation of crowd size?!

CONWAY: And now you’re casting it—

TODD [Over Conway]: What was the motive?

CONWAY: Your job is not to give your opinion Chuck.

TODD [Over Conway]: What was the motive?

CONWAY: Respectfully your job is not to call things ridiculous that are said by our press secretary and our president. That’s not your job. You’re supposed to be a news person, you’re not an opinion columnist.

TODD: Can you please answer the question? Why did he do this? You have not answered it. It’s only one question.

CONWAY: Let me answer it this way—I’ll answer it this way. Think about what you just said to your viewers. That is why we feel compelled to go out and clear the air and put alternative facts out there.

TODD: So it’s a political tactic? It’s a political tactic to come up with alternative facts and try to set up the press as your enemy?

CONWAY: No, I didn’t say that at all.

CONWAY: You want to talk about provable facts? You’ve missed it all along America doesn’t really—I mean look, you’ve got a 14 percent approval rating in the media that you earned. You want to push back on us, yet you have a 14 percent approval rating.

TODD [Over Conway]: All I’m looking for is an answer to a simple question. You never answered—You never answered why or the motivation of what was necessary about doing that yesterday.

CONWAY: Tell me why you just referred to us as ridiculous? Tell me why we were lied about with the MLK bust.

TODD: I said the debate was ridiculous. And I did not say anything about ML— Your deflect—Look, you’re deflecting in order to avoid—

CONWAY: NBC covered that false report.

TOOD: answering the question.

CONWAY: NBC covered that false report. As did 3,000 other articles that are still up online. Chuck, you can’t have a press coming into the Oval Office on day one of the administration– We welcomed them in to be open and gracious and to have a great relationship with the press. They came in and a press pooler wrote a false about the removal of the bust of Marin Luther King Jr. days after President Trump met with Martin Luther King III, Marin Luther King Jr.’s son in New York City.

Had a very constructive open conversation where Martin Luther king Jr.’s son said we have to unify and help heal the country together. And boom, any snarky attempt to try to undercut this president in Oval Office while he’s doing the business of the country. We can’t have this kind relationship.”